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Home Culture “Let’s Be Frank: Canadians Are Lazy” – A Lesson in How to Asianify Yourself

“Let’s Be Frank: Canadians Are Lazy” – A Lesson in How to Asianify Yourself

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Written by Andrew Roman   
Tuesday, 26 May 2009 19:00

I usually don’t think about being Canadian any more than I think about my eyes being green. It’s just something that is. I love to travel though, and sometimes when I am abroad I see, hear, or feel things which remind me that I am culturally different from those around me. For example, years ago when I was living in Southeast Asia, I was surprised to learn that job advertisements routinely ask for “Pretty young woman, 18-25, between 5’4” and 5’8”, with clerical abilities and pleasant demeanour.” (I used to wonder if any advertiser would have been bold enough to include a minimum requisite bust size, but I never saw one despite much searching.)

I was further surprised to learn that you could refuse to hire someone for any number of reasons (or none at all) - including having a disease, and that you could be required to give a blood sample to prove you didn’t have one. I was happy to know that in Canada , officially at least, there is no discrimination in job application processes.

On my most recent trip, however, to Japan and Singapore, I saw several things that I would like to see adopted here: things that are so logical, cheap, and useful that it was embarrassing for me to admit that we didn’t do it that way back home.

I was in a post office in a small city called Matsuyama in Japan where there were three customers and four employees that I could see. The speed with which I was welcomed and served was almost exhilarating. It was as though each movement of this postal worker was choreographed so as not to add the slightest needless movement.

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Even more impressively, there was no sigh at having to go fetch the ‘International Air’ stamps from the cupboard at the back - a task that might have required a ten-second walk. But while it might have been a ten-second walk, it wasn’t. Rather, it was a three-second run. I could not think of any reason for the keenness of this person to serve me so quickly, other than his sense of pride in a job done – not only well – but as well as possible. It reminded me of that trick mothers use to get their kids to stay quiet, by asking them to see how long they can stay quiet, and then making a game of seeing how much longer they can stay quiet each subsequent time. What an absolutely novel idea: do your job as well as you can, and then each day try to do it better! If nothing else, you might feel proud of yourself. And, once you take pride in yourself, you might do the same for the world around you.

When I would walk down any street in Japan or Singapore , I would almost never see a single cigarette in the gutter. I am not advocating smoking by any means, but I am advocating for cleaner streets. Whether or not you choose to smoke is up to you, but I find it odd that, while we have banned smoking indoors for the most part and moved smokers onto sidewalks, we have not thought it useful to place ashtrays on said sidewalks. Incidentally, not only did I notice prevalent ashtrays and garbage cans, but I also noticed that people used them religiously and happily - not because of what they got for doing it, but just because they should. Hmm, I thought. I wonder if this concept could ever work in Canada ? Could we, as individuals, be motivated to act not for some reward, but just because we want to do the right thing?

TippingThere are lots of places where tipping isn’t the norm, but I have never seen a sign expressly forbidding it. In Singapore , there are signs at many privately owned restaurants, which say “No tipping, please.” What a delightful thought: to be served food or drink without the subtle threat of poor service, spit-on food, or at least a dirty look, for not tipping at least as much the server thinks should be offered in gratitude for their doing their job. Before you prepare your hate mail for me, I worked in restaurants for many years and always appreciated the tips, and I am not an anti-tipper. I am, however, anti-those-who-forget-that-the-tip-is-actually-optional. I would much rather see the service charge included in my bill than have to risk offending those in the enviable position of satisfiers of hunger and thirst. The lack of tipping did not at all result in lesser service. I even experienced happy, quick, and polite service at fast food restaurants by neatly dressed people who seemed to offer me a genuine smile and didn’t make me feel like I was bothering them. So again, I thought, ‘Hmmm, low wage workers, in largely dead end jobs, doing more than the bare minimum.’ Impressive, maybe, but that really seems not to be the Canadian way.

After living in Toronto and Montreal , I have been residing in Ottawa for about four and a half years now. Something’s different here. I often notice exceptional slowness in both fast food and conventional restaurants, and a relatively high number of panhandlers on the streets. I understand that many people explain that panhandling results from a range of social issues including poverty, mental illness, unemployment and the like. I am tempted to agree that these factors might explain some of the phenomenon, but I think the bulk of the problem stems from one’s attitude towards work. I think I could capture this attitude as, “Unless I can earn as much as I think I deserve to earn, I choose not to work.”

tipjarWhich I suppose, here, is a choice everyone makes, given that Canada is a welfare state. It’s a place where those who do not or cannot work get taken care of. The best reason I can come up with to explain the ‘more panhandling and lower quality service from low wage workers’ is perhaps a sense of entitlement from old-stock Canadians. This attitude is absent from the vigorous work ethic emerging from immigrant groups who take on many jobs in Canada ’s larger cities. Don’t believe me? Ask yourself, when was the last time a new Canadian asked you for money? I’m not saying it never happens, I am saying that it seems quite rare.

Never in Japan and rarely in Singapore did anyone ask me for money. In Singapore , when they did, they always had a physical disability which plausibly kept them from working. So in that context, in so far as Singapore is not a generous welfare state, I understand that it may be your last resort. It’s always interesting for me to be in non-welfare states to see how hard people will work for ridiculously little money even by local standards. It was common in Singapore to see senior citizens working at fast food restaurants, or as busboys in classy restaurants. I can only assume that they must have realized they needed money and went out and found the best job they could. Jobs which they did effectively. How much so? Well my bag of take-out food was not just scrunched and tossed my way, but rather folded neatly twice across the opening and then a third time on the diagonal, just for good measure.

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Tony
August 24, 2009
Votes: +0
I agree 100% and then some

My wife is from Japan so I have visited Japan many times from Canada. I have also travelled to China and several countries in south east asia. I am glad someone else has noticed the sickness of poor customer service in north america. As a white Canadian myself, I never thought twice about how poor our customer service was until I first visited Japan. Now, whenever possible in Canada, I head straight to an asian at a bank, travel info center or restaurant because I can be 99% sure that this person actually cares about doing a good job, and goes above and beyond in most cases. For example, I took my wife to visit Niagra falls. My wife needed to use an internet cafe so I asked a white girl at the travel info center where the closest internet cafe was. She had no idea and made no attempt to find out. Next I went to a hotel and asked the asian clerk where the closest cafe was. He immediately told me where one was within 1 km of the location we were at (he had no reason to have this information other than he surmised someone may ask him one day). In Japan, I went to visit the Emperors palace, among other things. At the place where I bought my ticket, the staff gave me complete instructions from start to finnish of my tour. Where I could get my translating tape recorder, where I should start, how long the tour was etc. At Niagra falls, I wanted to visit Fort St George. I asked the tour staff where I could get a bus and they sent me to a different cubicle to ask the same question. The person at the next cubicle told me there was no bus to Fort St George. I have to take a cab. I asked how long the fort was open he said 900 pm. I took the cab all the way and the fort was already closed it was 500 pm. Even if I was a total prick to this guy (which I wasen't) this never would have happened in Japan. The first person I asked would have had the where with all to tell me that the Fort was closed at 5 pm rather than sending me off on a misinformed goose chase.

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Tony
August 24, 2009
Votes: +0
I agree 100% and then some

In Japan, unusual service requests never even faze retail staff. I had missed my plane in Japan to Thailand and needed to buy a one way ticket in Japan to Thailand to catch my connecting flight back to Canada. I went to JTB and the clerk made several phone calls and had my one way ticket to Thailand in 10 minutes. No sighs, no screwing around. May I also mention service on asian airlines is so much better than Canadian ones? Try flying on any Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Sigaporian airline and you will see what I mean. The food is great, the flight attendants pleasant, the airline seatpockets are clean (no crumbs at the bottom), the airline does not smell of old farts, the viewing screens always work and an asian airline has NEVER lost my luggage whereas aircanada loses in 50% of the time I fly in Canada (no joke 50%). IN Japan I acidentally left my umbrella at a restaurant. 2 minutes down the street the waitress chased after me and returned it then ran back to her work. Would that ever happen in Canada? I actually WANT to tip in Japan, even though I shoulden't.

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Tony
August 24, 2009
Votes: +0
I agree 100% and then some

Restaurants in Japan are pleasant, no tipping and always hygenic, unlike Taco Bell and MacDonalds near where I live. In Taco Bell on portage in Winnipeg, there is mung and kife all over the floor, the employees and the tables. The staff is incompetant and gives the wrong food or charges the wrong price. In Japan, smiles are still free at MacDonalds. I find White Canadians generally rude and impatient in comparison to Asians. It seems in Canada, companies are more concerned with charging you for the service and getting you the heck out of the store rather than patiently letting you take your time. Many times, I can almost detect a sense of relief from white canadians when I don't have the necessary documents to prove I am eligible for a library card or some such. For example, my wife wanted a library card, when the librarian told us we needed TWO letters proving adress rather than just one, she seemed pleased that she would not have to do the work to fill out the card forms at that moment.
In the post above you have covered tipping very nicely. I would just add that some girls think they can put on a little black dress and bat their eyelashes and get a 50% tip for substandard service. Think again. This expectation for a tip has to stop.

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Tony
August 24, 2009
Votes: +2
I agree 100% and then some

You can call me sexist all you want, but I prefer young pretty and pleasant JAL flight attendants to old, overweight cranky Air Canada flight attendants.
Now, as incredulous as my claims may seem thus far, prepare yourself for the Whopper. I think this poor customer service is indicative of the fall of western civilization. Whites have lived high on the hog (due to the riches afforded by colonialism and advanced technology) for too long. We have forgotten by and large that every creature on this planet has to make an effort to survive (a tour in Afghanistan reminded me of that). Canadians who grow up and expect everything to be given to them for no effort have been nastily surprised.
Asia has taken what it needed culturally, theologically and technologically from the west. It is now time for the west to absorb some of the spiritual and cultural ideas of asia. Sometimes I also think we need a crisis in Canada or something so everyone will wake up and remember the world isn't so easy outside our borders.
We can be nice to or even suck up to Canadian service staff just to get what we need. But here too is an excuse. The customer should as a minimum be polite and civil. He should not have to bend down oh his knees and kiss the waitresses big Canadian buttocks just to get a glass of water. Saying you deny service because the customer is not a ball of sunshine is just one more excuse not to do the job you are paid for.
If you say I hate Canada and if I like Japan so much why don't I move there? Well I served in Afgahnistan and have served in the army for 12 years. I very Canadian because I have actually fought and been wounded in action for this country.
Like a true patriot, I want to improve this country for the future and I think Asia can teach us alot in this regard.

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Tony
August 24, 2009
Votes: +1
I agree with you 100% and then some

To quote Ted Byfield, world net daily commentary, 30 June 2007:
"Where they [Canadians] used to get paid for working, they now expect pay for existing,..."

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no fun city
April 20, 2010
Votes: +0
I agree with you 100% and then some.....

Vancouver business are slow,lazy & have poor customer service plus we have a reputation as a
"no fun city" due to our puritanical culture/laws.
Service here is not even adequate.
The employees are not trained properly because management/ownership do not care & do not have the know-how & skills to teach their employees.You are on your own.Blame high taxes also.
If you ask a question at a store,the customer-service worker will answer with a "I do not know" which means find out yourself.
Also,business/customer service here pass on their responsibilty/work onto the customer.They will not take the time or effort to provide extra service to satisfy the customer.
The Vancouver business motto here is "go away customer,I am too busy yawning".
Ever try phoning for customer service to a bank,phone co.,etc?
If they cannot help you,they will say "phone this number yourself" instead of them phoning themselves on behalf of the customer.
That's why we can't compete on the business world stage.We lack energy & ambitions and are underachivers.




















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Mr SlowLazy
April 20, 2010
Votes: +0
I agree with you 100% and then some.....

In Vancouver business,if customer service makes a mistake,they will not say sorry.
They will find a way to blame the customer & not take responsiblity.
Here is an example:I brought a cheque payment(rent) to a real estate management(Martello Property Services Inc.)co and they lost the cheque.
I issue a new cheque but they do not say sorry for losing the cheque.The receptionist who lost the cheque is non-chalant about it & offers no apology.
The A/R person responsible for rent payments even say "it's not my fault,I did not lose the cheque".
Unbelievable!
Vancouver employees working at companies have no sense that they are working/representing their companies.It creates a bad image for the company/store.
People will talk about it with their friends,
co-workers,etc & spread the bad reputation of the business.
They are only thinking about themselves and protecting their mistakes.How pitiful!
Also,they do not feel guilty about it at all...
I try to avoid buying from Vancouver business due to very poor service.I do not buy any clothing here anymore & I haven't in 20 years.

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yawning 24 hours
May 21, 2010
Votes: +0
Lazy Vancouver Business

It's true.Vancouver business people/workers are very lazy.
They have a sense of entitlement bordering on arrogance.They want the customers or other business to do all the work for them.I have lost confidence in them.

For example I emailed/faxed/phoned Reliance properties many times about getting the keys early to the office space we rented so we can move in some documents/boxes but they never reply back in time.I doubt they are busy every moment.It's just plain laziness.
They make excuses that the insurance will not apply yet or the previous tenant has not moved out.I checked the room & the previous tenant has moved out.Never had this problem when I was in Europe,Asia and eastern Canada.
I can see where the puritancial thinking comes from,business people here are afraid they will get sued easily if they don't follow the rules/by-laws.No wonder Vancouver is a boring city & called No Fun City.Common sense is lacking.They lack business initiative to create fun for it's citizens & tourists.There is nothing to do here in vancouver late at night.Everyone goes home at 3 PM.All the tourists tell me that there is nothing to do in downtown vancouver late at night.Vancouver is becoming very backwards.
I can't wait to get out of this hell hole called vancouver.

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brian
August 15, 2010
Votes: +1
over-expectations for tips

I used to work at a Greek restaurant in Canada as a busboy/dishwasher. Although I had worked at a similar restaurant in which the waiters/waitresses had to share a small percentage of their tips with the scullions, this particular place was not like that.

Anyway, one time I ordered some food for my lunch break, and this Opie Cunningham-like waiter starts telling me how rude I am for not leaving a tip, even though we were co-workers and he had never offered to share any tips with me! However, a French-Canadian waitress was there and she was more understanding..."On travaille ensemble,"("We work together")she said to me.

So, I told the guy that I'd get the food myself in the future, that it was no big deal for me to run around just a bit more.

Another waiter at the same place got fired because he chased a pair of tourists out of the restaurant and berated them for not leaving a tip. My boss told him that that was very unprofessional, and fired him for it.

Maybe we should have a 15 percent service charge in restaurants, like they do in most of Europe. Then, if the service is really good (IT SHOULD BE ANYWAY, WITH OR WITHOUT TIPS!!) then customers could leave a bit extra.

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Azn-Canadian
August 20, 2010
Votes: +0
100% Agree, Canadian = Lazy Asses

"If you want to get something done in Canada, you'd better do it yourself."
This is what I learned as a surviving skill after living in Canada (Vancouver) for 5 years.

People above me have already concluded the poor customer service.

Employees of all industies start their morning with a cup of coffee, which takes 10 minutes to prepare. Generally people are slow.

Here's my story.
I called up some government department to inquire about the "Health Insurance Plan". An answering machine answered my call at first, and this was what I expected. 5 minutes later a real human picked up the line and asked my personal information just to confirm I was the right person with the right account number, this was also expected. Then the nightmare began. After knowing what I wanted to ask, the lady on the phone kindly transfered the line to her supervisor, who was supposed to know more. Musical waiting on the line for another 5 minutes. Then a gentleman picked up the line and repeated the exact same questions to confirm my identity. Okay, security, I was patient. After telling that gentleman what I wanted to ask, he again, kindly response by directing me to the right person, who was supposed to take care my kind of business. So then musical phone waiting scene again... but this time, the music suddenly stopped. And I looked at the clock, 4:00pm it was. All personnels are technically not responsible for any further inquiry after business hours. Okay, I was new to Canada and I taught myself a lesson - call earlier next time.
So the next day I dialed up to that department again. Another 5 minutes passed before an actual human picked up the phone and asked the same identity questions and directed me to someone else.
But finally I got to talk to a living human who got my question answered, though in a bitchy manner.
From then on, I avoided dealing with the government whenever I can.

Here is my other story.
Four years ago I was working at a clothing store as a part of the High School Career Preparation Program. There were a time when there were tons of customers and only 1 employee on the store front (I was still in training and worked at storage roon all the time). So where the heck are the rest of the employees? At the launch having their coffee break!!!! I kindly suggested them to go out and help to greet the customers. But they replied rudly, "XXXX is still out there and we are having our break." If I were a candidate for the monthly sale-star, I am pretty sure I have no opponents.

To analyze the "Canadian Laziness" from a immigrant perspective, I believe such attitude starts at elementary school.
Kids have nothing to do at school, and even less at home or in the city.
In high school, there are more things to do but still, kids are to free in terms of spare time.
Everything in Canada is geographically far away, people are discouraged to move aroung due to lack of mobility.
Soon afterwards, kids become reluctant to work long-hours, and act like an ass when he encounters a little bit of stress.

To end this Canadian laziness means to eliminate the Canadian culture, and it is impossible.
So, those who are hard working HAVE ALL GONE TO THE STATES.
And those hard-working immigrants ARE DOING GOOD BUSINESS.
And the overall Canadian ARE GETTING PENSION AND UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE while Harper and other asshole politicians are eating up the tax money, and flee away from Canada once retired.

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bapsdds
November 16, 2010
Votes: +0
want service have to kiss my ass

I lived in Canada Toronto,and Vancouver for total of 26 years and in Seattle for 10 years now.
Only a 2 1/2 hours drive from Seattle to Vancouver
what a difference in attitude, appearance, and
customer services.

Canadian attitude= you are not the best you must die like the rest, you want me to serve you ? you got to kiss my ass and massage my ego.

Canadian appearance= after moving to the USA I really notice the difference in people's facial expression. If you really want to see the difference go back to the old national geographic issues back in the 1980s where they did articles on eastern europe and also there was an article of EAST BERLIN and WEST BERLIN. You guess it EAST BERLINERS facial expression look like people in Toronto or Vancouver. They look like they just came out of a Soviet Gulag in Siberia.

Canadian Customer service= boy especially the bank tellers and retail ask a question or an inquiry and the staff look like they want to club you to death like a harp seal and skin you alive.

The other amazing thing I notice is that 6 to 7 out of ten times when you encounter people in or from Canada they tend to spray you with verbal diarrhea its like a unique trait and I have travel the world quite extensively and met people from other parts of the world.

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Johnathan Shakish
January 13, 2011
Votes: +0
I absolutely do not agree with you.

Canadians work hard. Japan and Singapore are not as rich as Canadians, and thus everyone there is expected to work even harder. Should old men and young children be working themselves at that age? We have come to the point in our history where taking a break is actually possible, even if only in the west. Stop and smell the flowers, look at all the amazing stuff we have. Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. This is closely followed by other, less well developed countries. Japanese people are more strict, sure, but they don't enjoy life as much as the rest of us.

Besides, I bet everyone posting on here is just as lazy as the people they're complaining about. That's the curse of our lovely Western culture. We can be hypocrites.

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Brian
February 11, 2011
Votes: +0
in defense of the article

Jonathan: please be aware that the article is a generalization; Andrew Roman even admits it. I believe that there's a good deal of truth to what he says.

There's an old joke about Canada: Canadians should have had French culture, British government and American proficiency. Instead, we got the American culture, the French government and the British proficiency.

Personally, I like the U.S. culture for the most part, but I really dislike the French government, and I'm not too keen on the British proficiency either.

If you've ever dealt with the bureaucracy, labyrinthine red tape, ambiguous instructions, etc. of the the Canadian federal government in general, you'd understand this.

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Terrance&Phillip
July 10, 2011
Votes: +0
shut your f**king face uncle f**kers

What's with the thanking bus drivers all the time, hose heads? Makes them think they are some privileged dispensers of transport.

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